EPA SAB 6/8/16 Public Comments on Fracking Water Risk to Americans


Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 2:05 PM
Subject: Washington Post: EPA’s own science advisors discredit EPA’s claims of fracking safety
Years in the making, EPA’s report on fracking claims:

     “We did not find … widespread, systemic impacts on drinking water resources in the United States.” 
But EPA’s own science advisory panel asks:
     “that the report be revised to include ‘quantitative analysis that supports its conclusion’ — if, indeed, this central conclusion can be defended.”
The scientists also note that EPA:
     “did not clearly describe the system(s) of interest (e.g., groundwater, surface water), the scale of impacts (i.e., local or regional), nor the definitions of ‘systemic’ and ‘widespread.’”
Hailing those scientists for having “called out” the agency, the Sierra Club adds:
     “Instead of blindly allowing destructive fracking to continue in our communities, we should extend statewide fracking bans and moratoriums that will keep dirty, climate-polluting fossil fuels like fracked gas in the ground.”
     — All the above quotes are from “EPA’s science advisers challenge agency report on the safety of fracking,” by Chris Mooney, Steven Mufson, and Brady Dennis at this August 12, 2016 Washington Post site:
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“For too long we have been focused on a
false choice: between the health of our
children and the health of our economy.”
— Gina McCarthy, Administrator
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
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From: kim feil <kimfeil@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:28 AM
Subject: Audio of my speech to EPA Science Advisory Board on Arlington fracking risks/playn NG stock mrkt on Global Warming
Collin thank you for being responsive prior to my speech to verify that the city does NOT test storm water trapped at the padsites that go into our storm water runoff and increases the Total Maximum Daily Load to treat water…but I did not have time to talk about that and the colloidal heavy metal risk in the soil at these padsites.
My name is Kim Feil from Arlington TX I live by the ATT Cowboys Stadium.
I blog on BarnettShaleHell.wordpress.com & post my email communications to public officials so that I have evidence they were forewarned of the risks we have undertaken in this huge and fast built out of high impact industrial mining in urban Arlington where we have an average of 3.5 gas wells per sq mile.
In the agenda for trenchless digging to replace water piping, I asked council to test the soil to see if benzene was leaching from unregulated HDPE piping of produced water from Ft Worth padsites being piped to the Brentwood Injection Well as the litmus test before allowing trenchless digging that (HDPE piping) is not Benzene resistant. Arlington has about 60 padsites and in addition has known EPA Brownfield sites granted the right to NOT be remediated under the TCEQ MSD program.
I spoke on the risk to selling water & waste water bonds when our drinking water source, Lake Arlington, (which has already had a Quicksilver 2010 work over spill that ran from a storage tank overnight in our lake).
I mentioned how our lake is at repeated flooding risk and how we have many padsites on the FT Worth side of the lake as well as over 100 casing laterals underneath it. I reminded them that our rain charged Lake Arlington could be a commodity if more ground water sources start showing contamination as WFAA local news reporter, Brett Shipp, has recently reported twice on Chisholm Springs Texas north of Ft Worth having at least 200 homes affected with contaminated water (high in chlorine, metals & minerals) in “that” heavily drilled area. In the WFAA comments
people south of the Metroplex came forward with water contamination reports (in Waxahachie, & Mansfield, as well as reports from Henderson County/birth defect, & Tarrant County). There was also a complaint of salty tasting water in Boyd TX.
I have blogged about how the EPA allows state regulators to decide what effluents to test for before releasing or selling recycled produced waste water west of the 98th meridian. I am shocked that radionuclides is NOT on the list. I also see the risk of recycling waste water become more popular to mitigate the ever growing risk in injection well induced frack quakes. Businesses are popping up to recycle produced water into useful products such as firefighting, road/spraying for dust or ice, agriculture and for drought watering (like in mud farming which they don’t test for NORM there either).
Currently, in Texas injection wells is still the preference for fracking related waste disposal and yet the lower level of regulation in the class of the injection wells are in my opinion inappropriately designated with the least amount of TXDOT oversight in trucking. If only we can redesignate produced water hauling as TENORM, then the truck drivers have to account for the volumes that they leave the frack sites with and those quantities must match up when they arrive at the injection wells.
Flooding of the Texas drill sites has been the rave of social media lately and the Elpaso area has been posting pictures of flooded Texas drill sites with hydrocarbons visibly spilled off in the flood waters…this should be on the SAB’s main radar as climate change serves to worsen the boom and bust of rain cycles.
Last I spoke before the SAB I ran out of time to report on a Colleyville home who had well water degradation after nearby fracking. I encourage the SAB to contact the City of Collyville who sanctioned numerous pre and post nearby well water testing. Alarmingly two water wells stopped working after the drilling and could not get post test results and were NOT included in the summary statistics. Overall I found that the general change in water quality supports UTA Clear’s reporting that the closer the drilling to ground water wells, the more changes seen.
In closing, I also encourage the SAB to seek out mainstream media water contamination stories and to please read the comments…you will find more relevant “testimonies”…recently I saw one for the Eagle Mountain Azle area where a commentor said his water well went bad after fracking came in.
I recently sued Chesapeake Energy in small claims court for nuisance when their odors came into my closed home over 1400 ft away during well completion. This took a year of my life which has changed since fracking and I thank you for listening to my comments.
Thank you
Here is the full hour and half public and industry testimony to the EPA SAB …my speech is first.

PS do the opposite is what I trust in these writers (trying to save Chesapeake?) http://seekingalpha.com/article/3981134-global-warming-jeremy-granthams-highest-conviction-long-term-trade#alt2


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  • Please participate in telling the EPA Science Advisory Board your stories of shale hell….sign up for a June 2016 5 minute speaking spot via teleconference….. https://barnettshalehell.wordpress.com/2016/05/03/epa-sab-comment-time-again-on-fracking-water-risk-to-americans/ If you have no story BUT WANT TO HELP, I have more than my minutes worth so contact me and let me know if you want to read my comments that may never make it to the board….. they involve:
  • 1) a water contamination case in Colleyville
  • 2) unintended water issues in recycling waste water creating frack on crack
  • 3) how Texas does not test for radionuclides when releasing oil & gas waters to the 98th Meridian
  • 4) how frack sand under heated conditions has HCN implications that can risk water in its fallout
  • 5) a water contamination case alleged in Azle TX (interview needed with 85 year old Edith)
  • 6) flooding issues with oil & gas risking water
  • 7) whats really in the stagnant water re Chesapeake caught in a gross misrepresentation of source/location of odorous waters near Cowboys Stadium and how this could further risk recycling water (frack on crack).
  • 8) The formaldehyde issues with the lift compressors and how we have no dedicated testing for it risking our drinking water…4 example the timing of the addition of two lift compressors near my home introduced 526 lbs/yr into my environment which correlated with the start of my chronic nosebleeds…if its in the air…isn’t it falling out into water sources?

I have more ideas for what the SAB needs to hear, but this is only a start. My full time devotion to the fracking related risks need people communicating these issues to help me have them heard so they do not conclude that fracking does NOT cause widespread harm. Just yesterday I pulled a weed that grew out the side in the center of my cement steps…..think about how impervious cement really is….do we trust that cement will be the ideal barrier protecting our ground water from frack waste?

About Kim Triolo Feil

Since TX Statute 253.005 forbids drilling in heavily settled municipalities, I unsuccessfully ran for City Council Seat to try to enforce this. Since Urban Drilling, our drinking water has almost tripled for TTHM's. Before moving to Arlington in 1990, I lived in Norco’s “cancer alley”, a refinery town. It was only after Urban Drilling in Arlington did I start having health effects. After our drill site was established closest to my home, the chronic nosebleeds started. I know there are more canaries here in Arlington having reactions to our industrialized airshed (we have 55-60 padsites of gas wells). Come forward and report to me those having health issues especially if you live to the north/northwest of a drill site so I can map your health effects on this blog. My youtube account is KimFeilGood. FAIR USE NOTICE: THIS SITE MAY CONTAIN COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL THE USE OF WHICH HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED BY THE COPYRIGHT OWNER. MATERIAL FROM DIVERSE AND SOMETIMES TEMPORARY SOURCES IS BEING MADE AVAILABLE IN A PERMANENT UNIFIED MANNER, AS PART OF AN EFFORT TO ADVANCE UNDERSTANDING OF THE SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH EMINENT DOMAIN AND THE PRIVATIZATION OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE (AMONG OTHER THINGS). IT IS BELIEVED THAT THIS IS A 'FAIR USE' OF THE INFORMATION AS ALLOWED UNDER SECTION 107 OF THE US COPYRIGHT LAW. IN ACCORDANCE WITH TITLE 17 USC SECTION 107, THE SITE IS MAINTAINED WITHOUT PROFIT FOR THOSE WHO ACCESS IT FOR RESEARCH AND EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. FOR MORE INFORMATION, SEE: HTTP://WWW.LAW.CORNELL.EDU/ TO USE MATERIAL REPRODUCED ON THIS SITE FOR PURPOSES THAT GO BEYOND 'FAIR USE', PERMISSION IS REQUIRED FROM THE COPYRIGHT OWNER INDICATED WITH A NAME AND INTERNET LINK AT THE END OF EACH ITEM. (NOTE: THE TEXT OF THIS NOTICE WAS ALSO LIFTED FROM CORRIDORNEWS.BLOGSPOT.COM)
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